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Post by Ink® on Sept 6, 2008 15:33:23 GMT -7
A boat of that size and weight wouldn't have been able to float, there wouldn't have been enough food for all of the animals, there'd be no way to get two of every animal on one boat, people don't live to be 120 or whatever just to build a boat, also, genetcis can trace all humans back to 4 women, than were from Africa, not Noah's family, there are many many reasons why it's impossible.
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Post by Colour or Lour™ on Sept 6, 2008 15:41:11 GMT -7
shunnn the nonbelievers! (in science)
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Post by kayla on Sept 6, 2008 16:47:14 GMT -7
it's a boat it floats! it was smaller then a cruise ship and they float so size is't an issue. it also weighed less then a criuse ship so that wasn't an issue either. as for getting two of every animal on one boat i'll admit it's a little odd but not impossible nothings impossible. and there's no way they can trace us back to 4 WOMEN! women can't have children with women.
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Post by Ink® on Sept 6, 2008 16:50:12 GMT -7
Well there were men too, but you can trace people back through a gene that women pass on to their children. Once you take biology you'll learna bout it. Also, it couldn't weigh less than a cruise ship if it had two of every animal. Some animals are so fucking huge, and you can't gather them up, even in 100 years Noah would have to have traveled over the whole enite world, trapped them all, transported them back to where he was building the boat, and then keep them all alive until the boat was finished.
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Post by Colour or Lour™ on Sept 6, 2008 16:54:18 GMT -7
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Post by kayla on Sept 6, 2008 17:00:30 GMT -7
well, it's what i believe and yeah i'll admit it would take a merical but hey it was God.
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Post by Colour or Lour™ on Sept 6, 2008 17:01:55 GMT -7
Well that's also a problem for me to be convinced; I believe in God but I don't believe he can make whatever he wants happen if it's not scientifically or mathmatically possible.
Edit: I like this argument How was the Ark loaded? Getting all the animals aboard the Ark presents logistical problems which, while not impossible, are highly impractical. Noah had only seven days to load the Ark ( Gen. 7:4-10). If only 15764 animals were aboard the Ark (see section 3), one animal must have been loaded every 38 seconds, without letup. Since there were likely more animals to load, the time pressures would have been even worse.
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Post by Ink® on Sept 6, 2008 17:05:45 GMT -7
Er wait, the animals came to Noah, I just remembered, he didn't gather them. But that's impossible too. If animals 9as many Christians say) don't ahve souls then nothing would make them want to go to Noah. ANd besides, he had to gather the food to last them 40 days and keep things like meat for the carnivores from rotting. And with amny kinds of animals in 40 days they would ahve already reproduced so Noah would have to bring enough food for offspring as well as the original animals. And the kind of food each species needed wouldn't have been readily available.
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Post by Colour or Lour™ on Sept 6, 2008 17:07:09 GMT -7
So true ink. So logical.
I think religion is illogical.
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Post by Ink® on Sept 6, 2008 17:12:19 GMT -7
Not to mention that evolution is a key factor in creationism anyways, after all there were a lot less animals then that supposedly their DNA altered through generations to keep the other kinds as well, so therefore creationism says that evolution took place to an extent while evolution leaves no room for creationism.
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Post by Colour or Lour™ on Sept 6, 2008 17:14:04 GMT -7
Yep. That's because scientists know there's no way to prove there's a god or isn't, and they know that science and religion don't mix. So they just leave it alone, unless to disprove something like Noah's Ark, in which case they can use numbers and knowledge.
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Post by Ink® on Sept 6, 2008 17:20:43 GMT -7
I think though that religion isn't supposed to excist anymore though [at least not in countries where the majority have good lives and modern technology]. I mean I can see that there was a need for people to believe that they could live in heaven after they died because their lives were full of disease, death, pain, hunger, cold, and other things that most people don't have to deal with unless poor, homeless, or in a 3rd world country. Also, it was taken advantage of by people, especially in the Catholic church, to get money from the people and have power. For example the church would sell you [like for money] indulgences, or pardons for your sins. Therefore, people could sin, paw a few bucks, and then supposedly go to heaven. Mortal money would mean nothing to a God so that means that the church was run by evil people. If God is so great then he would not let the common people be so decieved and he would not let corrupt people run the church. He would punish them in a way that was noticible to the world and he didn't do that, so yeah...
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Post by Colour or Lour™ on Sept 6, 2008 17:23:09 GMT -7
First off, God is not a "he" it is an it. It is a presence. It is a higher power with greater understanding. Religion is still very important in people's lives, even in first world countries. But God isn't like a punishing parent, it is just an awareness that we are all connected to through our souls. (Which animals also have). It does not control your life or punish you for anything and there is no heaven or hell.
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Post by Ink® on Sept 6, 2008 17:26:37 GMT -7
Colour, I'm just going ot say this right now. You are not a Christian. I just realized this even though you probably already realized it. For one, you don't believe in Heaven or Hell, both important to Christianity, or that God is an He, also important, or that God can make miracles, also incredibly important, you don't believe in Jesus, or anything much in the bible that I can figure. SO yeah, I have no idea what religion you are. ^^
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Post by Colour or Lour™ on Sept 6, 2008 17:28:07 GMT -7
Well duh I'm not a Christian, and never said I was! LAWL of course I'm not! And no, I don't think there's a name for my relig.
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